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Why would you not play DEs at RDT? I play JJ watt there and he is insane. Run stuffing, pass rushing, and a spy if I need too. The RDT spot is essentially the same position as a 3-4 DE. Might wanna actually learn football before you try to insult someone else.
Ps if you respond to this it won’t appear because it’s limited to a comment and 5 responses so you’ll have to comment to your own or on gucks again. Because it be a crime to have people miss your apparent intelligence at the game
Well jj watts a 3-4 defensive end which is actually a defensive tackle in a 4-3 so yeah that actually makes sense. Putting someone like jerry hughes or joey bosa there? Not so much. Maybe you’re the one that should gain some knowledge before you run your mouth. Bitch ass punk.
Uhm no? 3-4 is for stopping the run. Suh is way better. He is 40+ lbs heavier (surpasses the 300 lbs threshold), higher blockshed, higher imp block, higher strength, and everything else run-wise is approximately the same i think. Screw a few points less in power moves and - 10 speed for an interior lineman. I'll let my edge rushers have the sacks and speed, Suh is for smashing through on the inside.
Uhm no? 3-4 is for stopping the run. Suh is way better. He is 40+ lbs heavier (surpasses the 300 lbs threshold), higher blockshed, higher imp block, higher strength, and everything else run-wise is approximately the same i think. Screw a few points less in power moves and - 10 speed for an interior lineman. I'll let my edge rushers have the sacks and speed, Suh is for smashing through on the inside.
yea I mean, I can understand if a large defensive end has never played dt in his career or doesn't have the strength, you would give them a hit for playing out of position. But, if anything suh should get a boost for playing DT. Plus, 3-4 RE's are basically 3 tech's in a 4-3, they shouldn't take a position debuff for that anyways. I've been feeling like for a while, there should be 2 specifically marked DT slots. One designated Nose tackle and one designated 3 technique. 3-4 ends should take no debuff for playing 3 tech and 4-3, 3 techs shouldn't take a debuff playing 3-4 end.
I would love if they added that in. I run a 4-3 and a lot of coaches do use a NT/1 tech, I'd like to do the same but there is no way to ensure that your big guy ends up the NT/1. Also I'm sure the loss is due to AWR but agree that it should never be a ding like that to move guys around on the DL.
My thoughts exactly - was going to switch him to DT with the secondary position system but 81?! I guess it won’t affect his play - only my team overall
That’s not wtf I meant air head. He’s I’m not taking away From his skill I just believe his OVR by position should be more versatile at the DT position as well and watch legends before instead of stepping to one
I've been wondering this for a while.. I remember in old maddens, the players AWR dropped when out of position. Now AWR has always been a mystery stat, but essentially the ai is suppose to play worse. I've been playing Yanda at left guard for a while and sometimes he plays like a complete idiot.. is that because he's out of position or just EA crap coding skills?
I don’t think it matters anymore. Awareness used to drop but when I compare stats now it doesn’t seem to change. So from my experiences of putting guys like JJ watt, Reggie white, and even Joey Bosa on occasion and not noticing much change, unless you hate seeing low OVR on players you should be fine
Might have to get as a run stopping 4-3 defensive tackle and maybe keep malik jackson as a rush tackle in nickel
Uh, no. Put your DEs as your rush tackle. They have better pass rush moves (also don’t remember who Jackson is and don’t much care)
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If you say so. I mean you’re wrong and you can’t prove me wrong so you’re gonna reach and BAD in order to discredit me. So you got anything else?
You discredit yourself when you said you play defensive ends and rush tackles I didn’t even have to. Haha learn football bum
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Why would you not play DEs at RDT? I play JJ watt there and he is insane. Run stuffing, pass rushing, and a spy if I need too. The RDT spot is essentially the same position as a 3-4 DE. Might wanna actually learn football before you try to insult someone else.
Ps if you respond to this it won’t appear because it’s limited to a comment and 5 responses so you’ll have to comment to your own or on gucks again. Because it be a crime to have people miss your apparent intelligence at the game
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Holy shmucks. Those stats are insane. I’m seeing a new 3-4 RE in the future
Well jj watts a 3-4 defensive end which is actually a defensive tackle in a 4-3 so yeah that actually makes sense. Putting someone like jerry hughes or joey bosa there? Not so much. Maybe you’re the one that should gain some knowledge before you run your mouth. Bitch ass punk.
Long is way better
Not a huge fan of Howie long personally but eh.
He can actually get after the QB
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Uhm no? 3-4 is for stopping the run. Suh is way better. He is 40+ lbs heavier (surpasses the 300 lbs threshold), higher blockshed, higher imp block, higher strength, and everything else run-wise is approximately the same i think. Screw a few points less in power moves and - 10 speed for an interior lineman. I'll let my edge rushers have the sacks and speed, Suh is for smashing through on the inside.
Uhm no? 3-4 is for stopping the run. Suh is way better. He is 40+ lbs heavier (surpasses the 300 lbs threshold), higher blockshed, higher imp block, higher strength, and everything else run-wise is approximately the same i think. Screw a few points less in power moves and - 10 speed for an interior lineman. I'll let my edge rushers have the sacks and speed, Suh is for smashing through on the inside.
Um no, you’re an idiot who needs to learn football
Alight. For a guy that's almost always played DT, 300+ pounds, perfect dt attributes.. Plays at 81 for DT? But plays 89 at line backer?
Makes zero sense! Look at him compared to John Henderson https://www.muthead.com/20/compare/51628-52201/
yea I mean, I can understand if a large defensive end has never played dt in his career or doesn't have the strength, you would give them a hit for playing out of position. But, if anything suh should get a boost for playing DT. Plus, 3-4 RE's are basically 3 tech's in a 4-3, they shouldn't take a position debuff for that anyways. I've been feeling like for a while, there should be 2 specifically marked DT slots. One designated Nose tackle and one designated 3 technique. 3-4 ends should take no debuff for playing 3 tech and 4-3, 3 techs shouldn't take a debuff playing 3-4 end.
I would love if they added that in. I run a 4-3 and a lot of coaches do use a NT/1 tech, I'd like to do the same but there is no way to ensure that your big guy ends up the NT/1. Also I'm sure the loss is due to AWR but agree that it should never be a ding like that to move guys around on the DL.
My friends, we have learnt about Archetypes and just how much sense they make with this card
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My thoughts exactly - was going to switch him to DT with the secondary position system but 81?! I guess it won’t affect his play - only my team overall
He slots at dt 86 overall. 95 overall at re. Fits nice with flowers and harrison. Go lions yeah i know lol
nice, new 3-4 RE
Weird how he was one of the best DT’s in the last couple years now he’s a 81 OVR in that catagory
How? He was shit the last couple of years. Watch football instead of numbers
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That’s not wtf I meant air head. He’s I’m not taking away From his skill I just believe his OVR by position should be more versatile at the DT position as well and watch legends before instead of stepping to one
check him out compared to John Henderson....I might throw Suh at DT https://www.muthead.com/20/compare/51628-52201/
He's only an 81 at DT?! Does this really matter? Anyone know?
I've been wondering this for a while.. I remember in old maddens, the players AWR dropped when out of position. Now AWR has always been a mystery stat, but essentially the ai is suppose to play worse. I've been playing Yanda at left guard for a while and sometimes he plays like a complete idiot.. is that because he's out of position or just EA crap coding skills?
You just suck. Is what guckfoodell would say.
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Also it’s EA
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L. That’s what you used to say. I miss it too. It was way more intelligent than the stuff you spew now
I never said that
It’s EA
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I don’t think it matters anymore. Awareness used to drop but when I compare stats now it doesn’t seem to change. So from my experiences of putting guys like JJ watt, Reggie white, and even Joey Bosa on occasion and not noticing much change, unless you hate seeing low OVR on players you should be fine
dude, his kpw and kac are WAY better. He can play anywhere!
Raiders chem?
I meant Rams. Does he have Rams chemistry?
with power up yes he does -- problem though, he plays same spot Donald does (at least for using chems if building theme team)
No he has the Cardinals chem
He's been updated to have DT as a secondary position. whoop whoop
https://forums.ea.com/en/madden-nfl/discussion/251358/title-update-list-of-players-with-secondary-positions#latest
Perfect for my rams theme team. Out powers Damon Harrison too at DT. No idea why his OVR is shit as a DT even with chems enabled