How do you of all people when mentioning Al Davis, knowing that his whole mantra was to draft and obtain the fastest players available to him each year,
Not at least take the opportunity to throw some shade by comparing him to the people on here that bitch and moan when they release a card that doesn’t have 99 speed?!
Cause he didn’t just take the fastest players? Cause Al Davis actually built a team? Cause the 70’s Raiders are still a renown team? Who’s fucking with Willie Brown, Jack fucking Tatum, Hendricks, Long and I can go on? What is it they have in common? Oh yeah, Gold Jackets. And I don’t need a DE with 99 speed. I just need my secondary to cover the routes enough for LT, Long, White and Hendricks to get through. Oh and Peppers. You think I’m giving many fucks?
The original comment was about the Raiders getting lots of cards, so really the fact that this one is a DE is irrelevent in this instance,
It was intended as a play on the long standing joke in the NFL that Al loved fast players, how most peoples comments on this site are usually in regard to speed, and jokingly construing how because of this common factor, the Raiders always get lots of cards... and a nod knowing you tend to reply to people who criticize speed on a card.
Obviously he built great teams, but he's also famously known for setting up a chair at the 40 line and hand timing each guy himself, picking up athletes like Bo Robertson & Cliff Branch, at one time he had 2 Olympic Gold medalists in Ron Brown and Sam Graddy as receivers, converting Billy Cannon to a tight end from running back, drafting lineman like Henry Lawrence because he initially timed fast, obviously getting Bo's rights from Tampa when he'd gone to Baseball, even towards the end drafting guys like Heyward-Bey and Terrell Pryor...
So I don't think implying he valued speed and overdrafted at times as a result is out of line, but it seems you want to take it literally, so I'll leave it at that, and good luck to you.
Just for housekeeping, Jack Tatum was never inducted in the HOF, mostly in part to the fallout of the hit on Stingley,
He was a converted RB and really physically gifted player for the Buckeyes, a 1st round pick, the rest you mention;
Willie Brown was undrafted and established for the Broncos in the AFL before he ever reached Oakland,
The Raiders scouts were high on Ted at the draft, but they selected another lineman Art Thoms, before Don Shula converted him to LB and the Raiders traded for him much later,
Howie was a 2nd rounder, their first was Ted Watts, a safety they moved to corner out of Texas Tech, who ran a 4.3,
So yes, he BUILT great teams, but if they thought those three were going to be 3 bona fide HOF'ers from day one, why wouldn't you draft 2 of them yourself and run the risk of letting the third fall to the 2nd round?
He definitely showed a tendancy to fall in love with the physical abilities of a player when it came to drafting, the year they took Stabler, they drafted Eldridge Dickey in the 1st before him, and converted him to a WR immediately, there's not too many instances of a team taking a QB in the 1st, moving him before ever throwing a pass, and starting the guy you took later,
The only incidence where this could have happened was when the Jags took Jones, then either moved up or hope that Aaron Rodgers kept falling.
This card makes a lot of sense if you look at more than 2 stats... IT clearly says he's a run stopping DE, he has a significant boost at pursuit and small upgrade at speed. THUS he's a better run stopper. With the benefit of some decent pass rushing stats.
When I'm in Big Nickel I have him on the inside with Henderson. Strahan at right edge and Mack at left edge. Gets home pretty well. All with Raiders pass rush chems minus Strahan mind you.
Nice
Is mark Davis the head of EA? I swear the raiders get more love than anyone
Not like the Raiders had one of the best teams during Al Davis’ golden years
Of all the users that post on this site,
How do you of all people when mentioning Al Davis, knowing that his whole mantra was to draft and obtain the fastest players available to him each year,
Not at least take the opportunity to throw some shade by comparing him to the people on here that bitch and moan when they release a card that doesn’t have 99 speed?!
This was like a layup for you!
Cause he didn’t just take the fastest players? Cause Al Davis actually built a team? Cause the 70’s Raiders are still a renown team? Who’s fucking with Willie Brown, Jack fucking Tatum, Hendricks, Long and I can go on? What is it they have in common? Oh yeah, Gold Jackets. And I don’t need a DE with 99 speed. I just need my secondary to cover the routes enough for LT, Long, White and Hendricks to get through. Oh and Peppers. You think I’m giving many fucks?
The original comment was about the Raiders getting lots of cards, so really the fact that this one is a DE is irrelevent in this instance,
It was intended as a play on the long standing joke in the NFL that Al loved fast players, how most peoples comments on this site are usually in regard to speed, and jokingly construing how because of this common factor, the Raiders always get lots of cards... and a nod knowing you tend to reply to people who criticize speed on a card.
Obviously he built great teams, but he's also famously known for setting up a chair at the 40 line and hand timing each guy himself, picking up athletes like Bo Robertson & Cliff Branch, at one time he had 2 Olympic Gold medalists in Ron Brown and Sam Graddy as receivers, converting Billy Cannon to a tight end from running back, drafting lineman like Henry Lawrence because he initially timed fast, obviously getting Bo's rights from Tampa when he'd gone to Baseball, even towards the end drafting guys like Heyward-Bey and Terrell Pryor...
So I don't think implying he valued speed and overdrafted at times as a result is out of line, but it seems you want to take it literally, so I'll leave it at that, and good luck to you.
Just for housekeeping, Jack Tatum was never inducted in the HOF, mostly in part to the fallout of the hit on Stingley,
He was a converted RB and really physically gifted player for the Buckeyes, a 1st round pick, the rest you mention;
Willie Brown was undrafted and established for the Broncos in the AFL before he ever reached Oakland,
The Raiders scouts were high on Ted at the draft, but they selected another lineman Art Thoms, before Don Shula converted him to LB and the Raiders traded for him much later,
Howie was a 2nd rounder, their first was Ted Watts, a safety they moved to corner out of Texas Tech, who ran a 4.3,
So yes, he BUILT great teams, but if they thought those three were going to be 3 bona fide HOF'ers from day one, why wouldn't you draft 2 of them yourself and run the risk of letting the third fall to the 2nd round?
He definitely showed a tendancy to fall in love with the physical abilities of a player when it came to drafting, the year they took Stabler, they drafted Eldridge Dickey in the 1st before him, and converted him to a WR immediately, there's not too many instances of a team taking a QB in the 1st, moving him before ever throwing a pass, and starting the guy you took later,
The only incidence where this could have happened was when the Jags took Jones, then either moved up or hope that Aaron Rodgers kept falling.
LT and Peppers have good speed
Peppers plays like a goon for me too
Oh and there was no one bitching about speed since he’s a 6’5 270lb DE. Details my guy, details
How long ‘til Howie Long sacks the Quarterback? Hmmm....
Best defender in the game! Sold my Dawkins to pick him up.
Your an idiot . Dawkins is way better then this card
I wouldn’t say that. The run is way more potent than the pass BUT, Long wasn’t the expensive
Why the fuck? I literally bought him for 742k or somethin like that
This card makes no sense ! Reggie white beats him in every stat almost ! Wtf
Different????Position????Moron????
Same position different side . Idiot . A d end is a d end You must have never played real football.
Reggie is better at almost everything
DIFFERENT SIDES YOU FUCKING MORON
No the sides make a difference, and I play real football unlike you who probably is just trying to sound credible
Obviously you’ve never played Madden you dumb fuck. Otherwise you’d know that EA doesn’t give a wet, soggy, shit filled fuck
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Still have the same stat measure
Still doesn’t matter cause they play different sides so you can have both? Fucking clown
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You know Reggie is a LE right?
This entire thread was God damn hilarious.
Guck has his coffee that day
This card makes a lot of sense if you look at more than 2 stats... IT clearly says he's a run stopping DE, he has a significant boost at pursuit and small upgrade at speed. THUS he's a better run stopper. With the benefit of some decent pass rushing stats.
Can we get any new Steelers legends
Really? asking for a legend on another legend?
does anyone use him as a dt in nickel or 4-3 in pash rushing situations ???
He should still be in a nickel package. OLB gets subbed out for a DB in nickel. He would also be in 4-3.
When I'm in Big Nickel I have him on the inside with Henderson. Strahan at right edge and Mack at left edge. Gets home pretty well. All with Raiders pass rush chems minus Strahan mind you.
THANK YOU JESUS!!! FINALLY WE GET A FUCKING STRONG SIDE DE!!!!!!!!!
correction, Weak side. Dyslexia for the W
You sir are correct. I used him in the past as a 4-3 strongside end.
It really depends on where the strong side is
Yeah, but it’s EA so strong side is the right side. They’re too stupid to know better or care
I know I’m correct in correcting myself which is why I corrected my statement correctly
Lawl!
Alright y'all time to drop this price down to 250. Quit playin'. xD