Cause he didn’t just take the fastest players? Cause Al Davis actually built a team? Cause the 70’s Raiders are still a renown team? Who’s fucking with Willie Brown, Jack fucking Tatum, Hendricks, Long and I can go on? What is it they have in common? Oh yeah, Gold Jackets. And I don’t need a DE with 99 speed. I just need my secondary to cover the routes enough for LT, Long, White and Hendricks to get through. Oh and Peppers. You think I’m giving many fucks?
The original comment was about the Raiders getting lots of cards, so really the fact that this one is a DE is irrelevent in this instance,
It was intended as a play on the long standing joke in the NFL that Al loved fast players, how most peoples comments on this site are usually in regard to speed, and jokingly construing how because of this common factor, the Raiders always get lots of cards... and a nod knowing you tend to reply to people who criticize speed on a card.
Obviously he built great teams, but he's also famously known for setting up a chair at the 40 line and hand timing each guy himself, picking up athletes like Bo Robertson & Cliff Branch, at one time he had 2 Olympic Gold medalists in Ron Brown and Sam Graddy as receivers, converting Billy Cannon to a tight end from running back, drafting lineman like Henry Lawrence because he initially timed fast, obviously getting Bo's rights from Tampa when he'd gone to Baseball, even towards the end drafting guys like Heyward-Bey and Terrell Pryor...
So I don't think implying he valued speed and overdrafted at times as a result is out of line, but it seems you want to take it literally, so I'll leave it at that, and good luck to you.
Just for housekeeping, Jack Tatum was never inducted in the HOF, mostly in part to the fallout of the hit on Stingley,
He was a converted RB and really physically gifted player for the Buckeyes, a 1st round pick, the rest you mention;
Willie Brown was undrafted and established for the Broncos in the AFL before he ever reached Oakland,
The Raiders scouts were high on Ted at the draft, but they selected another lineman Art Thoms, before Don Shula converted him to LB and the Raiders traded for him much later,
Howie was a 2nd rounder, their first was Ted Watts, a safety they moved to corner out of Texas Tech, who ran a 4.3,
So yes, he BUILT great teams, but if they thought those three were going to be 3 bona fide HOF'ers from day one, why wouldn't you draft 2 of them yourself and run the risk of letting the third fall to the 2nd round?
He definitely showed a tendancy to fall in love with the physical abilities of a player when it came to drafting, the year they took Stabler, they drafted Eldridge Dickey in the 1st before him, and converted him to a WR immediately, there's not too many instances of a team taking a QB in the 1st, moving him before ever throwing a pass, and starting the guy you took later,
The only incidence where this could have happened was when the Jags took Jones, then either moved up or hope that Aaron Rodgers kept falling.
Cause he didn’t just take the fastest players? Cause Al Davis actually built a team? Cause the 70’s Raiders are still a renown team? Who’s fucking with Willie Brown, Jack fucking Tatum, Hendricks, Long and I can go on? What is it they have in common? Oh yeah, Gold Jackets. And I don’t need a DE with 99 speed. I just need my secondary to cover the routes enough for LT, Long, White and Hendricks to get through. Oh and Peppers. You think I’m giving many fucks?
The original comment was about the Raiders getting lots of cards, so really the fact that this one is a DE is irrelevent in this instance,
It was intended as a play on the long standing joke in the NFL that Al loved fast players, how most peoples comments on this site are usually in regard to speed, and jokingly construing how because of this common factor, the Raiders always get lots of cards... and a nod knowing you tend to reply to people who criticize speed on a card.
Obviously he built great teams, but he's also famously known for setting up a chair at the 40 line and hand timing each guy himself, picking up athletes like Bo Robertson & Cliff Branch, at one time he had 2 Olympic Gold medalists in Ron Brown and Sam Graddy as receivers, converting Billy Cannon to a tight end from running back, drafting lineman like Henry Lawrence because he initially timed fast, obviously getting Bo's rights from Tampa when he'd gone to Baseball, even towards the end drafting guys like Heyward-Bey and Terrell Pryor...
So I don't think implying he valued speed and overdrafted at times as a result is out of line, but it seems you want to take it literally, so I'll leave it at that, and good luck to you.
Just for housekeeping, Jack Tatum was never inducted in the HOF, mostly in part to the fallout of the hit on Stingley,
He was a converted RB and really physically gifted player for the Buckeyes, a 1st round pick, the rest you mention;
Willie Brown was undrafted and established for the Broncos in the AFL before he ever reached Oakland,
The Raiders scouts were high on Ted at the draft, but they selected another lineman Art Thoms, before Don Shula converted him to LB and the Raiders traded for him much later,
Howie was a 2nd rounder, their first was Ted Watts, a safety they moved to corner out of Texas Tech, who ran a 4.3,
So yes, he BUILT great teams, but if they thought those three were going to be 3 bona fide HOF'ers from day one, why wouldn't you draft 2 of them yourself and run the risk of letting the third fall to the 2nd round?
He definitely showed a tendancy to fall in love with the physical abilities of a player when it came to drafting, the year they took Stabler, they drafted Eldridge Dickey in the 1st before him, and converted him to a WR immediately, there's not too many instances of a team taking a QB in the 1st, moving him before ever throwing a pass, and starting the guy you took later,
The only incidence where this could have happened was when the Jags took Jones, then either moved up or hope that Aaron Rodgers kept falling.
LT and Peppers have good speed
Peppers plays like a goon for me too