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jardthejew
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irishcopper5

Mr. TURDthejew, what you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Sincerely, STILL YOUR DADDY 😎

jardthejew

Alright, so we’re obviously just fuckin with each other on this thread, but I really hope that’s the same case with the other guys thread. Every race is born with the same amount of “brain capacity.” The average black kid is more poor than the average white kid. The average black kid lives in an area where there isn’t as good of an access to a good education system as the average white kid. The average black kid is less likely to have two loving parents that push for them to do well in school or life in general than the average white kid. The average Asian kid is in a whole different school system than the average white kid. 6 days a week for 52 weeks, no summers. The average Asian kid is more likely to have stricter parents that won’t settle for less than practically perfect grades than the average white kid. Your intelligence is heavily determined by how you were raised, not by the amount of melanin in your complexion. Who’s to say how you did on school determines your intelligence anyways. That’s all the IQ test really is.

irishcopper5
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I didn’t realize you and I were discussing/“arguing” about race. I thought you were upset because of two innocuous videos I posted. I “discussed” stereotypes and race with Titan, not you. Also, Titan brought up stereotypes, not me. I simply showed him how ignorant it was to prejudge. Reread my post I sent him. I already explicitly wrote to Titan that each race has strengths and weaknesses and I showed him examples. You should take your stereotype discussion up with him, not me. Nevertheless, if you wish to have a civil discussion about this topic, we can. First off, I do not agree with you about race and IQ. What’s more, science disagrees with you as well. Again, if you reread my post to Titan you will see I touch on how environment has an effect on IQ, but only to a certain extent. Your genes play a VITAL role. Nature vs nurture. I explained it in my post to Titan and provided links. It’s science and it is real. Every race is NOT born with the same “brain capacity.” Many extensive studies have been done on this very topic for the last 120 years. One of the most intensive studies, which lasted 30 years found that the IQ gaps between the races begin as early as 3 years old, before ANY formal education begins. That means at approximately 3 years old, Asians begin to develop higher IQ’s than their white counterparts and whites begin to develop higher IQ’s than blacks, creating the IQ separation between the races. Furthermore, they found that African Americans did NOT perform better on tests that were NOT considered “culturally biased,” i.e. changing the format of the test did NOT help to increase black IQ scores. With all due respect, you need to revisit this topic and study because you are either wildly misinformed or have been indoctrinated at a politically correct learning institution. Once again, every race has strengths and weaknesses. African Americans are gifted athletes, but they are generally weak when it comes to cognitive function. Furthermore, they are much more prone to be violent and commit more crimes than any other race. 13% of the population (African Americans) commit 50% of the crime in America. Furthermore, they generally perform poorly when it comes to swimming competency. On a personal note, every black shipmate I had in boot camp failed their swimming test and had to take remedial lessons to pass. Does this mean ALL black people can’t swim? No, it does not, it’s a stereotype. Should I be shocked when a black sailor can swim and completes an arduous course such as Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training? No, I shouldn’t because it has been done before, so it’s entirely possible. Now, I’ll touch on why blacks are generally faster than any other race. Do you know why? They tend to have a narrower hip ratio compared to any other race. Narrower hips lead to a more efficient stride, which in turn leads to more speed when sprinting. As the hips get wider, the human body becomes less efficient at sprinting. It’s science and it is real. After blacks, whites have the next narrowest hip ratio, followed by Asians. While Asians have the widest hip ratio and they tend to be on the shorter side, this allows them to be more efficient at acrobatic sports. This is one of the reasons why they excel in gymnastics and martial arts i.e. flipping. As I stated previously, Asians are the most intelligent race, followed by whites, and then blacks. I mentioned multiple times now that environment plays a role in IQ, but it is FAR from being the sole factor in determining IQ. This is why African Americans have a 15 point IQ advantage over their brethren in Africa, because they are schooled here in America i.e. environment. Your argument relies solely on environmental factors and totally leaves out hereditary factors i.e. genes. This would be equivalent to saying an Asian child will grow up to be a world record sprinter as long as they receive proper training and practice throughout their life. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No, due to hereditary factors i.e. hip ratio. However, would they be faster than the untrained or not as properly trained child? Yes, they would and there are sprinters from Asia in every Olympics who consistently run in the mid to lower 10 second range in the 100 meters, which is still very fast. Nevertheless, they are normally eliminated in preliminary heats because they are running against those of African dissent, who have an advantage due to their genetic characteristics (genes). Nature (genes) vs nurture (environment). Are there blacks with genius IQ’s? Of course. Are there whites and Asians who can sprint? Of course. I showed some evidence of this. Are there blacks who can swim? Yes, including Olympic Champion and world record holder Cullen Jones and those who have passed BUD/S and gone on to become Navy SEALs. You can’t say on one hand a certain demographic, in this case blacks are the most athletically gifted because they have advantages physically (their genes), but on the other hand they “only” perform poorly on cognitive tests because of their environment. It doesn’t work that way. Unfortunately, we live in a world and country where we no longer tell the truth for fear of civil unrest and hurt feelings arising from that very same demographic. So science is rewritten along with history, all for the sake of harmony, due to this nation’s past sins. Therefore, we tell society fairytales (everyone gets a trophy) and everyone goes home happy. Unless, you belong to a different demographic (whites) and then it’s open season to demonize and stereotype all you want, which is readily apparent on this site. The reason I posted to begin with is because this site has a lot of ignorant people who like to prejudge others based on race. And what do we call those who prejudge? We call them prejudice. Furthermore, many of these people feel because their skin has melanin, they have carte blanche to pass judgement on whites with impunity, due to this nation’s past sins. Furthermore, they either don’t recognize or more likely refuse to accept that they are prejudice because their ancestors were once oppressed. While this was a very significant and regrettable event in history, it does NOT give people a free pass to make racist statements at will. And I will continue to call these people out for their blatant racism. Every time I look at a white players card on this site, I read comments such as, “He only got this card because he’s white” or “White people aren’t this fast” or passive aggressive racist statements such as “1 or even 100 out of 8 billion people doesn’t exactly change the stereotype,” regarding fast white players. So, I simply turned the tables on Titan and threw his “1 or even 100 out of 8 billion people doesn’t exactly change the stereotype” back on him regarding blacks and IQ. Was it crude? Absolutely, but sometimes that’s the only way to reach bigots such as Titan and mutman420. Do I believe 1 or even 100 out of 8 billion black people have a genius IQ or can swim? Of course not. It’s a ridiculous statement and that’s what I was trying to show him. Every race has strengths and weaknesses and stereotypes can be applied to every race. Does Titan believe 1 or even 100 out of 8 billion white people can sprint? Apparently so, because he wrote it and he seems to stand by it. And if he ever gets the nerve up to reply back to me, I have 60+ more names of white football players who have documented 4.3 or lower 40 times and that doesn’t include other sports such as baseball, track, etc. And it doesn’t include those who have run in the low 4.4’s, which is still quite fast. So, my question to you is, why not chastise Titan for dabbling in stereotypes, instead of having a “discussion” with me for posting factual content? Why the double standard? There are a few players in this game I don’t care for and I personally don’t think they should be in the game. However, you will never see me post on their page and you will NEVER see me dabble in stereotypes. For example, as I stated above it is a fact blacks are more prone to be violent and commit more crime. Nevertheless, you won’t see me on on Vick’s page, Michael Irvin’s page, or Tyreek Hill’s page etc. saying look they fit the stereotype. Why? Because it’s ignorant and not every black person commits crime. Here’s another example, what if this site was about a different video game, say Olympic swimming and the game added a Cullen Jones card. Would it then be ok for every white person to come into the forum and say, “He only got this card because he’s black” or “Black people can’t swim this fast” or “1 or even 100 out of 8 billion people doesn’t exactly change the stereotype.” Or how about, don’t they know black people can’t swim, they drop to the bottom of the pool like rocks. I don’t think so, and I would call those people out just as fast as I do here. It’s unnecessary and adds nothing to the community. It also wouldn’t be tolerated by the site either. I guarantee the site would ban those folks immediately. So why is it so accepted on this site? Jason Sehorn got a card this year and it almost broke the internet. Every racist on this site stopped in to share their bigotry and espouse their racial superiority. One white corner was added to the game and they melted down. Of course 99.9% of them never watched him play, but that didn’t stop them from sharing their ignorance. And it wasn’t that they didn’t like him, because that would have been ok. Saying you don’t care for a player is absolutely fine. Personally, I think it’s silly to sit on a player’s page that you hate, but that’s me. However, that wasn’t the issue. The issue was that they didn’t like his skin color and they weren’t afraid to share that with the community. In fact, one person literally spent so much time insulting the Sehorn card that they missed the fact that their favorite player, Charles Tillman was in the game. I had to send them the link that showed he had eight cards, including a power up card because they didn’t believe me. They literally missed their favorite player who had cards in the game for months because they were too busy hating on Sehorn. So I will NOT apologize for sharing my thoughts with them and letting them know just how ridiculous their statements are. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Finally, the reason I posted the videos to begin with wasn’t to say that white people are as fast as blacks because generally they are not, due to physical characteristics (genes). And I’m ok with that. It was to let ignorant people know that there are white athletes out there who can sprint and sometimes they are as fast or faster than black athletes. And the same applies to IQ, only vice verse-a. So when someone wants to espouse racial superiority whether they be black, white, or Asian, they better realize that each race has weaknesses too. I know I probably won’t reach you with what I have written and that’s ok. Most people aren’t receptive enough to receive new information, do their own research, and then make up their own minds. The reason I post, is so when others read it, maybe it will reach them and they will learn something new or will come away with a new perspective.

Here’s the link to the 30 year study regarding race and IQ (it also touches on physical characteristics too). The research was done by J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario and Arthur R. Jensen of the University of California, Berkeley (not exactly a conservative learning institution either). Before the study, Arthur Jensen postulated that environment was the sole factor in determining IQ, much the way you have. Nevertheless, once the study was finished he completely changed his position on the matter. Here’s a quote from the paper, “Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even after matching on maternal education and other variables," said Rushton. "Therefore they cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert an effect. That's why Jensen and I looked at the genetic hypothesis in detail. We examined 10 categories of evidence." They also had this to say: Their main recommendation is that people be TREATED as INDIVIDUALS, NOT as MEMBERS of GROUPS. They emphasized that their paper pertains only to AVERAGE differences. They also called for the need to ACCURATELY INFORM the public about the TRUE NATURE of individual and group differences, genetics and evolutionary biology. This means telling the TRUTH and NOT dabbling in stereotypes. I wholeheartedly agree with them. Pay close attention to page 31 of the of the PDF file, which is page 265 of the actual study. It touches on intelligence, brain size, maturation rate, personality, reproduction, and social organization. You will see the many differences, including differing brain size:

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

If you aren’t interested in reading the lengthy study, here is a short one page article that sums up the study, which appeared in the June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy and Law, a journal of the American Psychological Association. It appears on the News Medical Life Sciences website:

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/Race-differences-in-average-IQ-are-largely-genetic.aspx

In 2007, James Watson, a legendary biologist, was condemned and forced into retirement after claiming that African intelligence wasn't "the same as ours." "Racist, vicious and unsupported by science," said the Federation of American Scientists. " Utterly unsupported by scientific evidence," declared the U.S. government's supervisor of genetic research. The New York Times told readers that when Watson implied "that black Africans are less intelligent than whites, he hadn't a scientific leg to stand on." As I stated earlier, we live in a world where we tell fairytales and condemn those who speak the truth, even if they have facts to back up what they say. Furthermore, these facts also assert that whites are NOT the smartest, yet people still wish to bury the truth in order to placate a certain demographic. Another famous and extensive study on this topic exists, which delved further into crime rates between the races, differing physical characteristics, as well as IQ differences. It explained the hip ratio and other physical characteristics that make blacks gifted athletes. However, I am unable to locate it at the moment. It too may have been “forced into retirement” from the internet for not being “politically correct” in regards to IQ and crime rate findings among different races.

I encourage you to do your own research and draw your own conclusions. However, I caution you to stay away from news publications, especially main stream news, as they will only offer opinions and not facts. Instead, go straight to the ACTUAL studies or read from ACCREDITED medical journals. As I stated earlier, there have been many studies done on this topic and they come to the same universal conclusions.

mutman420

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mbrydson55

saddest argument ever

mutman420

yeah idk about you but this guy seems kinda racist tbh