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Why can’t I defend the pass

team in sig. 91zcv with my 3 cbs and Krause. I usually user shazier. I usually keep my opponent under 50 yards rushing a game but they throw all over me. I run a 3-4 usually Tampa 2, cover 3 or nickel 335. Is it my players, play selection, or do I just suck at defense?

MutApotheosis

Quote from wrjose81 >> Quote from MutApotheosis >> I am going to say a thing I almost regret revealing, because I think its unintuitive and subtle so no one adjusts to it.

Adjust coverage "undernearth" (right stick down)

Not press coverage, but underneath

No one does this because they are so afraid of someone going over the top.  But honestly in like 40 games at all-madden I have given up a pass over the top exactly once.  No one can tell what I am doing because they just assume that the ZCV is causing my dudes to break on the ball.  But in reality, Krause and Vick and Clinton-Dix are all playing slightly shallow so they are between the QB and the receiver.

xxELITExxREAPER

You can call the same defense all game and that' ok but you need to throw stuff at them base align press or spread or pinch the line crash in different directions maybe user a lineman for quicker pass rush

wrjose81

Quote from wrjose81 >> Quote from MutApotheosis >> I am going to say a thing I almost regret revealing, because I think its unintuitive and subtle so no one adjusts to it.

Adjust coverage "undernearth" (right stick down)

Not press coverage, but underneath

No one does this because they are so afraid of someone going over the top.  But honestly in like 40 games at all-madden I have given up a pass over the top exactly once.  No one can tell what I am doing because they just assume that the ZCV is causing my dudes to break on the ball.  But in reality, Krause and Vick and Clinton-Dix are all playing slightly shallow so they are between the QB and the receiver.

wrjose81

Quote from MutApotheosis >> I am going to say a thing I almost regret revealing, because I think its unintuitive and subtle so no one adjusts to it.

Adjust coverage "undernearth" (right stick down)

Not press coverage, but underneath

No one does this because they are so afraid of someone going over the top.  But honestly in like 40 games at all-madden I have given up a pass over the top exactly once.  No one can tell what I am doing because they just assume that the ZCV is causing my dudes to break on the ball.  But in reality, Krause and Vick and Clinton-Dix are all playing slightly shallow so they are between the QB and the receiver.

Since they are all 6'0" to 6'3" I get 3-4 interceptions a game easily.

smotpokers

Quote from blaze556 >> Quote from smotpokers >> Yeah 3-4 is weird. If I remember right your second MLB or one of your outside linebackers is in coverage? I would upgrade one or both of those two spots if thats the case. 

That or just switch to a 4-3 and get some nice coverage linebackers. I love it because linebackers that can do coverage can also hit the ball out of their hands.

blaze556

Should I keep berry or upgrade to someone with 91zone also?

blaze556

Quote from Little_Hasman >> Quote from blaze556 >> Quote from Action5432 >> May want to Try some faster CBs below 90 speed now isnt going to stop much

Little_Hasman

Quote from blaze556 >> Quote from Action5432 >> May want to Try some faster CBs below 90 speed now isnt going to stop much

 Which cbs have 90 or higher speed and 91zone? Sounds like that’s going to cost me a lot lol

 OOP CB Bo and R&R Blount aren't too expensive. R&R Rod woodson also works. If you don't mind 89 speed flashback Norman is baller with that 93 zone

Little_Hasman

Quote from blaze556 >> Quote from Little_Hasman >> I'd switch to a 4-3 setup and use hybrid linebackers that can cover very well and blitz when necessary. I recommend Telvin Smith at ROLB (buy the best one in your price range, don't cheap out tho), Ltd Willie at LOLB (can use OOP Atwater or Derrick Brooks played OOP), and you can use Shazier at MLB. He kinda sucks in coverage when you don't user him so you might wanna change him if you plan to change users frequently.

blaze556

Quote from Action5432 >> May want to Try some faster CBs below 90 speed now isnt going to stop much

 Which cbs have 90 or higher speed and 91zone? Sounds like that’s going to cost me a lot lol

Action5432

May want to Try some faster CBs below 90 speed now isnt going to stop much

jamhammerr

Quote from ThermonuclearDud >> Try playing Big Dime and Quarters in obvious passing situations against teams that are passing a lot (and invest in the SS2/FS2/CB4 necessary. 

So are you blitzing at all? 

When I see this, I’ll hurry up and spam inside zone until you stuff the run. Maybe not the best advice.

blaze556

Quote from Little_Hasman >> I'd switch to a 4-3 setup and use hybrid linebackers that can cover very well and blitz when necessary. I recommend Telvin Smith at ROLB (buy the best one in your price range, don't cheap out tho), Ltd Willie at LOLB (can use OOP Atwater or Derrick Brooks played OOP), and you can use Shazier at MLB. He kinda sucks in coverage when you don't user him so you might wanna change him if you plan to change users frequently. 

I call a lot of cover 3 variants and some cover 2 but I shift players according to the situation. I cannot recommend Telvin Smith enough though. He's a monster at all things. There's a reason the Ltd is fucking expensive

Little_Hasman

I'd switch to a 4-3 setup and use hybrid linebackers that can cover very well and blitz when necessary. I recommend Telvin Smith at ROLB (buy the best one in your price range, don't cheap out tho), Ltd Willie at LOLB (can use OOP Atwater or Derrick Brooks played OOP), and you can use Shazier at MLB. He kinda sucks in coverage when you don't user him so you might wanna change him if you plan to change users frequently. 

I call a lot of cover 3 variants and some cover 2 but I shift players according to the situation. I cannot recommend Telvin Smith enough though. He's a monster at all things. There's a reason the Ltd is fucking expensive

MutApotheosis

I am going to say a thing I almost regret revealing, because I think its unintuitive and subtle so no one adjusts to it.

Adjust coverage "undernearth" (right stick down)

Not press coverage, but underneath

No one does this because they are so afraid of someone going over the top.  But honestly in like 40 games at all-madden I have given up a pass over the top exactly once.  No one can tell what I am doing because they just assume that the ZCV is causing my dudes to break on the ball.  But in reality, Krause and Vick and Clinton-Dix are all playing slightly shallow so they are between the QB and the receiver.

Since they are all 6'0" to 6'3" I get 3-4 interceptions a game easily.

Shading underneath also makes it so you break up or intercept WR screen passes about half the time.  No one sees that coming because its the adjustment to playing against zone.

cowswithguns0822

What kind of pass rush are you getting? Sending 3 usually results in the opponent just manipulating the pocket until somebody gets open, and unless you get pressure they will shred you. Gotta mix in blitzes on key downs and distances.

kalledian

Quote from blaze556 >> Quote from smotpokers >> Yeah 3-4 is weird. If I remember right your second MLB or one of your outside linebackers is in coverage? I would upgrade one or both of those two spots if thats the case. 

That or just switch to a 4-3 and get some nice coverage linebackers. I love it because linebackers that can do coverage can also hit the ball out of their hands.

BP0803

I started with a 3-4 using the Raiders but then switched to a 4-3 with the Bengals. It has mad a huge difference for me. The 46 can be a great formation to run on defense

blaze556

Quote from iamsamuell3rd >> If you want to try a 4-3 youre already kind of set up for one, bosa is an animal on a 4-3 Kendricks is a 4-3 lolb and ware can play rolb in a 4-3, however of you want to stay in a 3-4 I would put thay vic Beasley at lolb and put kendricks oop at mlb, that's just me though I run a 3-4 and have shazier and mlb ladainian and they do well

 I’ll try that and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions

iamsamuell3rd

If you want to try a 4-3 youre already kind of set up for one, bosa is an animal on a 4-3 Kendricks is a 4-3 lolb and ware can play rolb in a 4-3, however of you want to stay in a 3-4 I would put thay vic Beasley at lolb and put kendricks oop at mlb, that's just me though I run a 3-4 and have shazier and mlb ladainian and they do well