Just finished wstching vick highlights and...

I can't even be mad at the bs anymore. The things you see in this game is what dude was doing in real life. i want to apologize to the ppl that I've called "bums" for using Vick.

Quote from anti_twisted >> Vick made plays for highlight reels that made him seem better than he was. The times he scrambled all over to hit an open receiver who developed later or took off for a first down overshadowed the many, many times he simply scrambled right into a sack, often resulting in fumbles or he would force throws resulting in picks. He was always a double edged sword. Sure he made plays other QBs couldnt, but he was all brawn no brains for his position and his mentality led to a lot of turnovers and sacks which is largely why he struggled to win games when it mattered most. In the end he was more like an amazing, historical, record breaking COLLEGE QB who never quite translated to the NFL beyond being fool's gold as he generally looked at his first read, maybe his second before he would start scrambling and hoping it worked. Not a guy you wanted on playoff runs.

Vick made plays for highlight reels that made him seem better than he was. The times he scrambled all over to hit an open receiver who developed later or took off for a first down overshadowed the many, many times he simply scrambled right into a sack, often resulting in fumbles or he would force throws resulting in picks. He was always a double edged sword. Sure he made plays other QBs couldnt, but he was all brawn no brains for his position and his mentality led to a lot of turnovers and sacks which is largely why he struggled to win games when it mattered most. In the end he was more like an amazing, historical, record breaking COLLEGE QB who never quite translated to the NFL beyond being fool's gold as he generally looked at his first read, maybe his second before he would start scrambling and hoping it worked. Not a guy you wanted on playoff runs.

Quote from vedoidoid7 >> Quote from nicksr84 >> I can't even be mad at the bs anymore. The things you see in this game is what dude was doing in real life. i want to apologize to the ppl that I've called "bums" for using Vick.

 It is pretty amazing that some people have no idea how electric he was. He really was life imitating MUT.

As mentioned, He started 16 regular games in a season once.

2 winning seasons in Atlanta.

Ran for more than 700 yards only 3 times. Ran for 1000 yards once and that was the year atlanta went 7-9 before he went to jail. That "running ability" got him nowhere other then 2 owners stupid enough to give him 100 million dollar contracts and he pissed one away and only saw 3 of the 6 years after Lurie gave him that contract.

He had 1.. yes 1 3000 yard passing and 20 passing TD season. In Philly.

Roddy White's string of 6 1000 yard seasons did not start until Vick was out of Atlanta.

Even before the animal cruelty case surfaced in 2007, however, Vick's corporate status had deteriorated. Among the negative incidents was his middle finger gesture to Atlanta football fans in 2006.

If you want to say he is a great QB in MUT... fine, but in real life ? Sorry.... No.. Not even close.

Quote from anti_twisted >> Quote from vedoidoid7 >> I think you're all correct - Mike Vick is definitely a QB  in MUT19, and he was also definitely a QB in real life... if that's what we're all saying.

 Comes from absolutely nowhere given that nobody specifically made or emphasized a correlation of vick's position in both sides beyond his stats and such, states something so obvious it's irrelevant, probably implying something else on completely unfounded grounds to begin with. More exemplary intellect around here.

I’m sure I could put together Ryan Leaf highlight video and make him look good. Nobody until Kyler Murray(maybe?) has had the physical tools that Vick had. But he was nothing more than an above average starting NFL QB. A pretty spectacular achievement in life, but should not be the dominant QB in a video game that includes so many legends that were much better.

Quote from cranetechnique1 >> Boys.  Highlights?  I have highlights of Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill and countless others.  You don’t make 99 cards from Highlights.  Those are called TOW cards.  He only had one complete season where he played all 16 games. 

Vicks career stats- 56% completion percentage  80 overall QB rating and he was almost one for one on TD to INT QBR 55!!!!  That’s really bad guys.  

running the ball absolute beast though.  However, Kaepernick, Cunningham, Bobby Douglass, Cam Newton and Mcnabb are all better than him running. 

 He wasn't the most accurate, but their is no arguing his running ability. If you think all those QBs were better runners than him, you didn't watch him in Atlanta or college.

Quote from vedoidoid7 >> I think you're all correct - Mike Vick is definitely a QB  in MUT19, and he was also definitely a QB in real life... if that's what we're all saying.

 Comes from absolutely nowhere given that nobody specifically made or emphasized a correlation of vick's position in both sides beyond his stats and such, states something so obvious it's irrelevant, probably implying something else on completely unfounded grounds to begin with. More exemplary intellect around here.

I think you're all correct - Mike Vick is definitely a QB  in MUT19, and he was also definitely a QB in real life... if that's what we're all saying.

I think they made his throwing stats way to good this year but everything else is fine

Quote from Crinus >> Watched Vick alot because he played a bunch in Saints division, If he couldnt get out of the pocket him and his team was toast because he wasnt completing much anything downfield, not to say he didnt have good games as a passer. He was decent at passing in his 2nd stint when he was with Philly. 

But you know what else? Its not done much in Madden like what he did in game, Vick when on run would gain tons more yards than what you can in Madden. 

 He also didn't face LBs as fast as WRs or CBs and safeties who tackle like LBs

Watched Vick alot because he played a bunch in Saints division, If he couldnt get out of the pocket him and his team was toast because he wasnt completing much anything downfield, not to say he didnt have good games as a passer. He was decent at passing in his 2nd stint when he was with Philly. 

But you know what else? Its not done much in Madden like what he did in game, Vick when on run would gain tons more yards than what you can in Madden.

Still was a dog killer who went to prison, found Jesus and came back so everything was cool (sarcasm). Kind of a piss poor example of a person to have such a focal point of MUT, kinda illustrates the type of company EA is. Sure Vick did his time and all that, and seemingly didn't screw up his second chance but all of that only happened because he was caught. Russell Wilson is like Vick but far more well rounded, not quite as fast of course but makes a lot of crazy plays himself and has some of the worst blocking every year. Ok I'm a hawks fan and I'm biased because I watch Wilson more. But there are plenty of others who can be roughly the same model of electric such as Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, Daunte Culpepper, Donovan McNabb etc which EA HAS, or still does make as options, but they can be the central figure of MUT QBs is my point. And not only that but EA clearly doesn't entirely care about realism being translated completely by giving guys who aren't even rookies yet god like stats as soon as they're drafted or making Mahomes 90+ speed or Lamar Jackson a lot more accurate than he is. I do agree they do get some aspects of how they play down pretty well, because Vick does have the low arc, the wild throws...another example is LeVeon Bell, I used him most of last year and his motions were very similar to what he looks like in real life (not knocking Bell or females but he kinda runs like a girl and Madden did reflect that pretty well, just saying)

Quote from 55studwell >> So wait?you and the sorry millennials never saw Vick IRL?lol next thing you’ll tell me is you’ve never seen Barry or Michael Jackson live 😂 

 I'll be 35 in 2 months and been watching football 20+ years. Just never cared for Vick because I despise mobile qbs.

So I just finished watching some general NFL highlights and this game really isn't as bad as we've made it out to be. The bs we complain about really happens in real life.

Boys.  Highlights?  I have highlights of Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill and countless others.  You don’t make 99 cards from Highlights.  Those are called TOW cards.  He only had one complete season where he played all 16 games. 

Vicks career stats- 56% completion percentage  80 overall QB rating and he was almost one for one on TD to INT QBR 55!!!!  That’s really bad guys.  

running the ball absolute beast though.  However, Kaepernick, Cunningham, Bobby Douglass, Cam Newton and Mcnabb are all better than him running.

So wait?you and the sorry millennials never saw Vick IRL?lol next thing you’ll tell me is you’ve never seen Barry or Michael Jackson live 😂

Loved watching him while he was an Eagle. the opening play in the Monday night Massacre against Washington always gives me chills. He was so dominant but like other people said, he made some brutal mistakes. Couldn't slide for sh!t either.. and he was super fragile.

Don't get me wrong, he was awesome, but his mistakes are barely overshadowed by his accomplishments.

Quote from Xtramint >> Watch full game films if you are really that interested. Highlights are just that, highlights. Vick had sim gamechanging, remarkable abilities that led to some big plays for his team. Unfortunately, he has some glaring flaws that lead to huge plays for the opposing team too.

For every one of those highlight plays you can see, there is about 3 mechanical breakdowns leading to him sailing a ball to a saftey.

 exactly this^  vick is over hyped you can not just watch highlights of someone and assume they are great don't get me wrong i really enjoyed watching him back in the day but lets not make him bigger than he was. the guy only played a full 16 game season once in his career, he also only ever won 2 playoff games and threw like upwards of 80 ints and only roughly 130 tds lol where he shines is obviously in the running stats he sets qb records for rushing yards all time for qbs and rushing  in a season but that still does not make him a great qb makes him a great rusher. he had all the potential in the world  to be an all time great he just could not keep his shit together off the field and he really needed to work on his mechanics,pocket presence and accuracy. two years in a row in his prime with Atlanta as well where he only threw two more tds than ints,numbers speak for themselves.